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My Lord and My God: Faith of Our Fathers
For an introduction, explanation and links to the entire work, click here.
When we engage any group that has missed an important essential of the truth, we usually start with the Bible. If the group with which we are discussing[1] things accepts the Bible as authoritative, then things are to some extent simpler; it becomes a matter of interpretation. If this is not the case, then we either need to discover the truth in that material which they consider authoritative or take another route to arriving at the truth.
When we deal with the Watchtower, we start with the former condition; the Watchtower claims to regard the Bible as an authoritative book. Things get a little complicated when the subject of translation comes up; we can deal with the written Word in their translation as easily as with any one else’s. A more serious consideration is that the Watchtower claims, in effect, magisterium. This means that the organisation claims to be able to both interpret the Scriptures authoritatively and to further speak for God on various issues.
To actually show whether the Watchtower or any other organisation can claim magisterium is beyond the scope of this work, which proceeds with the following two premises:
- Christianity is not an “institutional” religion. God never intended any organisation to obtain an exclusive franchise for His plan of salvation or revelation. In the present dispensation God’s first dealings with people are on an individual basis, by imparting to people one at a time the new birth in Jesus Christ; those who receive it come together to form the Church, the body of people called out by His name.
- The Bible is true because God made provisions for its revelation, transmission, and finalisation of the canon, or list of authoritative books. It is not true because an organisation said that it was (see first premise.) We also need to emphasise that the Bible is “God-breathed” (2 Timothy 3:16, KIT) and God is not “Bible-breathed”; this is a source of confusion amongst many people. God is at the centre of all things and our thinking and actions need to reflect this.
Having made these assertions, we can proceed to begin our exploration of the matter at hand.
Who are the fathers of the church?
As we said before, in engaging any group of people in a search for the truth, we usually start with the Bible. We certainly plan to spend a lot of time in the written Word, but it would be useful at this point to make an excursion into some “new” territory, namely that of the Fathers of the Church.
Many reading this will be surprised that such “fathers of the church” even exist. Most evangelicals look at church history in a very specific way; there were first New Testament times, then there was the Reformation, and now there’s us. This results in a gap of about a millennium and a half between significant events; surely something happened in that length of time! The Watchtower stretches this concept even further because the Society was founded a little less than four hundred years after the Reformation; their concept of “dead time” for Christianity is even wider!
Fortunately there was a lot going on in the years after the Apostles died and rejoined their Master. The saving power of God was in force and people’s lives were being changed all through that period. The course of church history may not be to everyone’s taste but God’s plan was and is not going to be defeated. It was a time when, as the Egyptian church father Origen had to say:
And if we observe how powerful the word has become in a very few years, notwithstanding that against those who acknowledged Christianity conspiracies were formed, and some of them on its account put to death, and others of them lost their property, and that, notwithstanding the small number of its teachers, it was preached everywhere throughout the world, so that Greeks and Barbarians, wise and foolish, gave themselves up to the worship that is through Jesus, we have no difficulty in saying that the result is beyond any human power, Jesus having taught with all authority and persuasiveness that His word should not be overcome.[2]
When Our Lord came into the world, the lands surrounding the Mediterranean Sea (this includes such places as the Holy Land, Egypt, North Africa, Spain, France, Italy, Greece and what is now Turkey) were part of the Roman Empire. It was the command of that same Empire which caused Mary and Joseph to return to Bethlehem for the birth of Jesus: “Now in those days a decree went forth from Caesar Augustus for all the inhabited earth to be registered…and all people went travelling to be registered, each one to his own city.” (Luke 2:1,3). Now Caesar’s intention was not simply to make a list of the people but to tax them, the inevitable activity of governments.
The Roman Empire would continue to rule this area for a little more than four hundred years after Jesus walked on this earth. The Empire’s existence was both a boon and a bane for Christianity. It was a boon because it provided a large area of land and people to spread the Gospel without the hindrance of borders or nationalistic considerations. It also was the final manifestation of the ancient world, the place where the pagan gods grew tired and people yearned for new meaning and purpose. It is for these reasons that we read “But when the full limit of the time arrived God sent forth his Son, who came to be out of a woman and who came to be under law, that he might release by purchase those under the law, that we, in turn, might receive the adoption as sons.” (Galatians 4:4,5)
The bane part was that Christianity was illegal for the first three centuries after Jesus’ death and resurrection. The reason for this is very simple: the Roman Empire and Jesus Christ both demanded the highest and best allegiance and obedience from people, who in turn could give this to only one or the other. In the early years the persecution that resulted was sporadic, because Christianity was small and the Roman state had enough vestiges of its Republican past to take the edge off its absolute monarchy. As Christianity became more important and the Roman state became more despotic, the stage was set for a head on collision of the two. This took place in the third centuries, when emperors such as Decius and Diocletian attempted the extermination of Christianity.
The Emperor Constantine finally resolved this by issuing the Edict of Milan in 313; this legalised Christianity in the Roman Empire. About this time Arius began his work of denying the deity of Jesus Christ; in response Constantine called the Council of Nicea in 325 to resolve this question.
This is a lot of history but it is necessary to bring some things into focus. We see that Christianity overcame hostility and even attempts at annihilation to become a legal (and later official) religion of the greatest state the world had ever known. We also see that there is in fact an historical continuity from the church of the New Testament forward; those who lived in a period that close to the Apostles deserve some study and respect.
We finally see that the major break came in the early fourth century; having to deal with both legalisation and a major theological issue such as the deity of Christ are important, life-changing types of events in the history of the church. Those from the Watchtower tell us that the confluence of these two events was a major leap into “apostasy,” the place where Christianity fell into such serious error that it took the creation and perpetuation of an organisation such as theirs to bring it upright again. Is this a reasonable position?
While the effects of Nicea and of Christianity’s legalisation on the fidelity of Christianity to the faith of the Apostles is a complex question and beyond the scope of this presentation, let us for the moment lay it aside and restrict ourselves to a brief examination of the opinions of those people usually referred to as the “Ante-Nicene Fathers.” By this set of valiant men we mean those “Fathers of the Church,” eminent men who both wrote about Christianity and frequently led the church as pastors and bishops before the Council of Nicea. In doing this we are accruing to ourselves several advantages:
- They would be free from any after effects of the Council of Nicea, or for that matter the legalisation of Christianity.
- They (the Greek fathers at least) had as their native tongue the same language the New Testament/Christian Greek Scriptures were written in. Most of the Ante-Nicene Fathers had Greek as their first language; the Latin fathers such as Tertullian, Novatian, Cyprian, etc. were the exceptions, and most of them knew Greek as well.
- They lived in basically the same cultural milieu as that of the New Testament, though this fades with time.
So we have here a group of people who actually put their thoughts to paper and who were in an historical and cultural position to say something of importance about Christian belief and practice. Can they be successfully marshalled to defend the Watchtower’s denial that Jesus is God? Or what is their real position on the subject?
Justin Martyr
Justin Martyr (114-165), born in Nablus (on the West Bank), was one of the first Christian “apologists” in that he defended the faith against attacks by others. His moniker is explicit that he gave his life for Jesus Christ. His Dialogue with Trypho is an exposition of Christianity relative to Judaism. The following statement from that work looks to be favourable both to the Jews and to the Watchtower:
I replied again, “If I could not have proved to you from the Scriptures that one of those three (who appeared to Abraham) is God, and is called Angel, because, as I already said, He brings messages to those to whom God the Maker of all things wishes [messages to be brought], then in regard to Him who appeared to Abraham on earth in human form in like manner as the two angels who came with Him, and who was God even before the creation of the world, it were reasonable for you to entertain the same belief as is entertained by the whole of your nation.…Reverting to the Scriptures, I shall endeavour to persuade you, that He who is said to have appeared to Abraham, and to Jacob, and to Moses, and who is called God, is distinct from Him who made all things,–numerically, I mean, not[distinct] in will. For I affirm that He has never at any time done anything which He who made the world–above whom there is no other God–has not wished Him both to do and to engage Himself with.”[3]
Unfortunately a little later in the same work he says the following:
“Have you perceived, sirs, that this very God whom Moses speaks of as an Angel that talked to him in the flame of fire, declares to Moses that He is the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob?”[4]
And since they are compelled, they agree that some Scriptures which we mention to them, and which expressly prove that Christ was to suffer, to be worshipped, and to be called God, and which I have already recited to you, do refer indeed to Christ, but they venture to assert that this man is not Christ.[5]
Justin’s point was that the appearances of God in the Hebrew-Aramaic Scriptures were in fact appearances of Jesus Christ before His incarnation. Serious students of these scriptures will identify the “God of Abraham, Isaac and of Jacob” as Jehovah.
Irenaeus
Irenaeus (120-202) was Bishop of Lyons, in France. He was a student of Polycarp, who in turn was a student of the Apostle John. The following statement is very interesting for those who contend that the only God is the Father:
…what is much more important, [since it is true] that our Lord [acted likewise], who did also command us to confess no one as Father, except Him who is in the heavens, who is the one God and the one Father…[6]
However, earlier in the same work he has already said the following:
For He fulfils the bountiful and comprehensive will of His Father, inasmuch as He is Himself the Saviour of those who are saved, and the Lord of those who are under authority, and the God of all those things which have been formed, the only-begotten of the Father, Christ who was announced, and the Word of God, who became incarnate when the fullness of time had come, at which the Son of God had to become the Son of man.[7]
So the Arian must turn elsewhere for consolation.
Clement of Alexandria
Clement of Alexandria (153-217) was a leading Christian teacher; he was Origen’s main instructor. The following statement should give some consolation to those who deny that Jesus is God:
Why then command as new, as divine, as alone life-giving, what did not save those of former days? And what peculiar thing is it that the new creature the Son of God intimates and teaches?[8]
However, he also has this to say:
But nothing exists, the cause of whose existence is not supplied by God. Nothing, then, is hated by God, nor yet by the Word. For both are one–that is, God. For He has said, “In the beginning the Word was in God, and the Word was God.”[9]
Clement combines both the idea that the Father and the Son are God and are one.
Tertullian
Tertullian (145-220) was without a doubt the greatest of the Ante-Nicene Latin fathers. He was from what is now Tunisia in North Africa. He is also one of the most controversial, not only because of his harsh style (he was a lawyer and many of his works are styled like an argument in a legal case) but because in his later years he was a Montanist, i.e., an adherent of a movement that believed in and practised prophecy and the gifts of the Spirit. In his Against Hermogenes he makes a statement that should be very congenial to the Watchtower:
For He could not have been the Father previous to the Son, nor a Judge previous to sin. There was, however, a time when neither sin existed with Him, nor the Son; the former of which was to constitute the Lord a Judge, and the latter a Father. In this way He was not Lord previous to those things of which He was to be the Lord.[10]
The idea that there was a time when Jesus Christ the Son was not is a key contention for any kind of Arian theology, Watchtower or otherwise. He also makes the following statements in his Against Praxeas that the Watchtower finds interesting:
There are some who allege that even Genesis opens thus in Hebrew: “In the beginning God made for Himself a Son.” As there is no ground for this, I am led to other arguments derived from God’s own dispensation, in which He existed before the creation of the world, up to the generation of the Son. For before all things God was alone–being in Himself and for Himself universe, and space, and all things. Moreover, He was alone, because there was nothing external to Him but Himself.[11]
Thus the Father is distinct from the Son, being greater than the Son, inasmuch as He who begets is one, and He who is begotten is another; He, too, who sends is one, and He who is sent is another; and He, again, who makes is one, and He through whom the thing is made is another.[12]
But the Arian who seeks consolation in Against Praxeas lives dangerously; it was in this work that Tertullian first introduced the term “Trinity” to the world, and worked out the theology of God as one essence but three persons that made Arianism unpopular in Latin Christianity when it was in vogue in Greek. He makes a very clear (and dare we say Pentecostal) statement in this work:
For we, who by the grace of God possess an insight into both the times and the occasions of the Sacred Writings, especially we who are followers of the Paraclete, not of human teachers, do indeed definitively declare that Two Beings are God, the Father and the Son, and, with the addition of the Holy Spirit, even Three, according to the principle of the divine economy, which introduces number, in order that the Father may not, as you perversely infer, be Himself believed to have been born and to have suffered, which it is not lawful to believe, forasmuch as it has not been so handed down. That there are, however, two Gods or two Lords, is a statement which at no time proceeds out of our mouth: not as if it were untrue that the Father is God, and the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and each is God; but because in earlier times Two were actually spoken of as God, and two as Lord, that when Christ should come He might be both acknowledged as God and designated as Lord, being the Son of Him who is both God and Lord.[13]
Hippolytus
Hippolytus (170-236) was an eminent Italian prelate. He wrote the following that the Watchtower should find of comfort:
The first and only (one God), both Creator and Lord of all, had nothing coeval with Himself; not infinite chaos, nor measureless water, nor solid earth, nor dense air, not warm fire, nor refined spirit, nor the azure canopy of the stupendous firmament. But He was One, alone in Himself.[14]
But elsewhere he says this:
Many other passages, or rather all of them, attest the truth. A man, therefore, even though he will it not, is compelled to acknowledge God the Father Almighty, and Christ Jesus the Son of God, who, being God, became man, to whom also the Father made all things subject, Himself excepted, and the Holy Spirit; and that these, therefore, are three. But if he desires to learn how it is shown still that there is one God, let him know that His power is one. As far as regards the power, therefore, God is one. But as far as regards the economy there is a threefold manifestation, as shall be proved afterwards when we give account of the true doctrine.[15]
This isn’t very helpful to our Arian friends either.
Origen
The Bible translator and commentator Jerome said about the Egyptian Origen (185-254) “…all but the ignorant acknowledge (him) as the greatest teacher of the Churches next to the Apostles.[16]“ The Watchtower might be willing to agree with this statement in view of the following:
To such persons we have to say that God on the one hand is Very God (Autotheos, God of Himself); and so the Saviour says in His prayer to the Father, “That they may know Thee the only true God;” but that all beyond the Very God is made God by participation in His divinity, and is not to be called simply God (with the article), but rather God (without article). And thus the first-born of all creation, who is the first to be with God, and to attract to Himself divinity, is a being of more exalted rank than the other gods beside Him, of whom God is the God, as it is written, “The God of gods, the Lord, hath spoken and called the earth.” It was by the offices of the first-born that they became gods, for He drew from God in generous measure that they should be made gods, and He communicated it to them according to His own bounty. The true God, then, is “The God,” and those who are formed after Him are gods, images, as it were, of Him the prototype.[17]
God the Father is light incomprehensible. In comparison with the Father, Christ is a very small brightness, though to us by reason of our weakness he seems to be a great one.[18]
The following, however, will doubtless temper their enthusiasm:
His birth from the Virgin and His life so admirably lived showed Him to be more than man, and it was the same among the dead.[19]
We worship one God, the Father and the Son, therefore, as we have explained; and our argument against the worship of other gods still continues valid. And we do not “reverence beyond measure one who has but lately appeared,” as though He did not exist before; for we believe Himself when He says, “Before Abraham was, I am.” Again He says, “I am the truth;” and surely none of us is so simple as to suppose that truth did not exist before the time when Christ appeared. We worship, therefore, the Father of truth, and the Son, who is the truth; and these, while they are two, considered as persons or subsistences, are one in unity of thought, in harmony and in identity of will.[20]
Ignatius of Antioch
Up to this point, we have considered authors whom the Watchtower has considered to be favourable to their position relative to the deity (or lack of it in their consideration) of Christ. At this point we should introduce one more witness, namely Ignatius of Antioch (30-107), who was doubtless acquainted with some of the Apostles themselves. He also provides us with some of the most direct statements about the deity of Christ amongst the Ante-Nicene Fathers that one could want:
For the Son of God, who was begotten before time began, and established all things according to the will of the Father, He was conceived in the womb of Mary, according to the appointment of God, of the seed of David, and by the Holy Ghost. For says [the Scripture], “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and He shall be called Immanuel.”[21]
I pray for your happiness for ever in our God, Jesus Christ, by whom continue ye in the unity and under the protection of God.[22]
Conclusions
This survey of the Ante-Nicene fathers is brief, but sufficiently long to underscore two of their beliefs:
- Jesus Christ the Son is God. The way they express this varies, as does their concept of what it means, but their belief in this central fact is quite clear.
- Jesus Christ the Son is subordinate to the Father, that is to say He is below the Father in rank, to use a military analogy. The way in which they conceive this also varies, but it is a belief that is consistent amongst the Ante-Nicene Fathers.
These beliefs raise several important questions, which will be the focus of the rest of this work:
- Does the Bible support either or both of these propositions?
- What is the real nature of the relationship between the Father and the Son? And the Holy Spirit?
- What is the real reason for the failure of Arianism? Was it just because the government suppressed it? Or is there something else that turned Christianity against it? What significance does this have in our own day, especially when we have an Arian institution (the Watchtower) propagating essentially the same beliefs?
[1]This is the polite term in many cases. Too often such dialogues disintegrate into a shouting match.
[2] Origen, On First Principles, IV, 1.
[3]Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, 51
[4] Ibid., 59
[5]Ibid., 68
[6] Irenaeus, Against Heresies, IV, 1
[7]Ibid, III, 16.
[8] Clement of Alexandria, Who Is The Rich Man That Shall Be Saved?, XII
[9]Clement of Alexandria, The Instructor, I, 8.
[10]Tertullian, Against Hermogenes, 3
[11]Tertullian, Against Praxeas, 5
[12]Ibid, 9
[13]Ibid, 13.
[14] Hippolytus, Refutation of All Heresies, X, 28.
[15] Hippolytus, Against Noetus, 8
[16] Jerome, Preface to Hebrew Names.
[17] Origen, Commentary on John, II, 2
[18] Origen, On First Principles, I, 2, cited by Jerome, Letter 124 (To Avitus), 2
[19] Origen, Commentary on John, I, 34
[20] Origen, Against Celsus, VIII, 12.
[21] Ignatius of Antioch, Letter to the Ephesians, 18
[22] Ignatius of Antioch, Letter to Polycarp, 8
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The Tasteless Nouveaux Riches Take Over Harvard B-School
And no one else is happy with it either:
When Christina Wallace, now the director of the Startup Institute, attended Harvard Business School on a scholarship, she was told by her classmates that she needed to spend more money to fully participate, and that “the difference between a good experience and a great experience is only $20,000.”
“Class was the bigger divide than gender when I was at H.B.S.,” said Ms. Wallace, who graduated in 2010….
Many alumni from decades ago, including Suzy Welch, a former editor of The Harvard Business Review, said they were startled by the culture of spending that was depicted in the article, including the news that one student had lived in a penthouse apartment at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel in Boston. When Ms. Welch graduated in 1988, money mattered, she said in post on Twitter, “but conspicuous consumption events were rare.”
A reader named Ken H said that the tone at the school in the 1970s was downright egalitarian, and that anyone who “flashed money around” would have earned jeers. “Maybe what has changed isn’t so much H.B.S., but America,” he said.
“Ken H” hit the nail on the head. Years ago the “upper strata”, for all of their faults, had a much stronger sense of civic responsibility–and an aversion to flaunting their success in front of those who didn’t have what they had–than we see now. But, with all of our “progress” with the “protected groups”, we’re supposed to live in a better society.
Americans, however, have always had a blind spot towards class differences. The result of this is that we have more income inequality that we had. And, if you have gross income inequality, no other form of “equality” matters. Period. Not racial, not gender, not sexual orientation, none of them. Our elites are simply using the latter to hide the problems with the former.
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The Thankless End of the United Thank Offering–and a Reminder of the Consequences
With the stroke of a pen, the United Thank Offering Board (UTO) will possibly be rendered powerless and voiceless by Episcopal Church leadership. This is a complete reversal of a three-year study process that resulted in the General Convention ratifying the report of a Study Committee (INC-055 AdHoc) in 2012. The report praised the UTO Board’s work and declared:
We believe that the United Thank Offering must continue to be autonomous but interdependent as regards the corporate entity that constitutes The Episcopal Church.
The United Thank Offering is a venerable institution within the Episcopal Church. Up until now it has been under control of the Episcopal Church Women, a group of people who have had to put up with a lot over the years (such as, the unceremonious ejection of my mother’s ladies’ guild’s rummage sale from the parish hall, which resulted in Palm Beach’s premier resale shop). But, in its centralising rage, TEC has yanked their autonomy also.
Although I have blog readers who disagree, I try to avoid visceral, emotion-charged rants. One exception was The Church of the Palm Crosses becomes the Church of the Double Cross, over what I feel is the Episcopal Church’s shameful handling of its property disputes. At the time I stated that, IMHO, TEC’s leaders “are only in it for the money“. Stuff like this only confirms my suspicion.
But do not be deceived: any church or charity which takes money for one purpose and funnels it into another–the usual result of moves like this–will demoralise its donor base in a hurry. (I think there are some legal problems with that, but TEC seems to be Teflon coated most of the time). And when you demoralise your donor base, you will stop them from giving. This is not a good strategy for an institution whose demographics are as unfavourable as TEC’s and which needs all the happy donors it can get.
And I’ll repeat this from that same rant:
I’ve said many nasty things about Episcopalians and their church, but I’d never have believed that I would come to that conclusion about this church. The Episcopal Church was supposed to be the place where this kind of thing didn’t happen, but happened it did. In the past Episcopalians, lay and cleric alike, could comfort themselves in the conceit that, while rude “Bible-thumpers” went on television to enrich themselves at the expense of the impecunious, the Episcopal church was basically above such tasteless social climbing. One can only conclude that the church is currently held captive by a bunch of left-wing arrivistes who, while attempting to maintain the appearances of the past, are at best no better than those they ridicule.
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Achor and Friends: Hosanna to the Son of David
Dove 54 (1978)
Achor, the North London group which put together these albums, got some friends together and did yet another one. The music is very much in the tradition of the previous albums: good, straightforward Christian folk with an emphasis on songs taken directly from the Scriptures. And the benefits of that (esp. with Scripture memorisation) cannot be underestimated, especially since that practice of the “Jesus Music” era (it appeared on both Protestant and Catholic albums) has sadly gone out of fashion.

The singers:
- Alice Charles
- Mavis Ford
- Sue Martin
- Claire White
- Irene Wilkie
- Ann Woodroffe
- David Bolton
- Chris Head
- Brook Trickett
- John White
- Alan Woodroffe
The musicians:
- Mavis Ford: electric piano, string synthesiser
- David Bolton: acoustic guitar
- Mark Ford: drums
- David Gillard: acoustic & electric guitar; pedal steel guitar
- Chris Head: acoustic & bass guitar; percussion; electric piano; string synthesiser
- Frank Jeffrey: electric piano; string synthesiser
- Paul Mitchell: viola
- Producer: Chris Head
- Arrangements by Chris Head & Mavis Ford
- Engineer: Brook Trickett
- Recorded at Soundree Studios, Biggin Hill
- Sleeve Design: Gerry Copas
My thanks to Rob for furnishing this music, and to all the Achor artists for their kind comments and support of my earlier postings.
More Music
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Justin Welby's "Drunk Man" Needs to Sober Up. So Does Justin Welby.
It may come as a surprise to some of my Anglican friends, but I actually made one attempt to formally return to the Episcopal Church. That took place about thirty-five years ago. I attended and moved my membership to a small Episcopal church. One Sunday the selection from the Psalter was Psalm 69, which includes the following:
Those who sit at the gate gossip about me, and drunkards make up songs about me. (Psalms 69:12 GW)
In the homily, the rector thought the idea of drunkards making songs about someone was silly. Having come from a family where alcoholism was frequent and dislike of my spiritual inclinations equally frequent, I knew otherwise, although putting their sentiments to music was beyond their talent set. (They preferred letters and sharp-tongued speech). This and other strange unrealities about the rector and his church led me to seek pastures elsewhere.
Today the newly minted Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, sits atop of what he thinks is a “drunk man”:
“I sometimes worry that as Anglicans we are drifting back in that direction,” he said. “Not consciously, of course, but in an unconscious way that is more dangerous. Like a drunk man walking near the edge of a cliff, we trip and totter and slip and wander, ever nearer to the edge of the precipice.
“It is a dangerous place, a narrow path we walk as Anglicans at present.
“On one side is the steep fall into an absence of any core beliefs, a chasm where we lose touch with God, and thus we rely only on ourselves and our own message. On the other side there is a vast fall into a ravine of intolerance and cruel exclusion. It is for those who claim all truth, and exclude any who question.”
Jokes aside about Anglicans and drinking going together, like my last rector Welby needs a reality check on several levels.
Let’s start with his dichotomy. As a businessperson Welby is well familiar with people who self-reliance is a religion to them. But that’s not what generally goes on at the “reappraiser” side these days; what the church is really competing with is reliance on the State as opposed to God. That reliance is expressed in several ways, from the vastness of the dole to the proliferation of thought control expressed as anti-discrimination legislation. It’s the latter that’s got the CoE in such a pickle these days about same-sex civil marriage.
On the other side are those “many small churches” which supposedly embody the narrow-minded thinking Welby decries. That may have some traction in the CoE itself (and then again maybe not; conservative churches have always done better on both sides of the Atlantic, which is why TEC is so zealous in fighting for the property) but looking at the Anglican Communion as a whole it’s ridiculous. Both the numbers and the poverty of the membership–and if you can’t endure the idea of being in a church with the poor, you can’t really make a fuss about helping them–are with the very conservative churches.
Welby’s response to date has been what any good businessman would do: he’s trying to induce the two sides to cut a deal, not only with each other but with the state which is breathing down his neck. Rowan Williams tried to gum the two sides into doing the same thing, although to his credit Williams didn’t seem to have as much zeal to please his masters in Whitehall as Welby does. But that too won’t work.
What you’ve got here are two sides whose differences are irreconcilable. On the one hand the Christian sexual ethic is a part of the package, whether anyone likes it or not. Trying to edge it with “beauty pageant Christianity” the way Evangelicals have tried to do will only make the situation worse. Also trying to paper over things by extolling the virtues of committed relationships won’t help either, as Deborah Pitt attempted to explain to Welby’s predecessor. Both of these have helped as much as anything to deepen the mess that Western Christianity is in these days.
On the other hand you have the LGBT people, whose well-financed take-no-prisoners strategy has made a successful end run around human rights enshrined in the Anglophone world at least for centuries, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. They’re the ones with the least incentive to cut a deal, and they know it.
Welby’s strategy (such as it is) is a loser. If anyone needs to “sober up” here, it’s Welby. He needs to either do it God’s way or become the pliant servant of a secularly minded state bought and paid for by well-moneyed and powerful interests. If he chooses the latter, though, he may need some asbestos underwear on the other side.
If not, he can continue in Psalm 69:
May my prayer come to you at an acceptable time, O LORD. O God, out of the greatness of your mercy, answer me with the truth of your salvation. (Psalms 69:13 GW)
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The Filioque and the "Field Hands"

Last year this blog featured Frederick Gere and Milton Williams’ The Winds of God, which was one of the earliest Episcopal “folk Masses” produced. Attempting to break out of the traditional Episcopal mould of music, the folk Mass featured several types of music. One of them was the Nicene Creed, where choir director Milton Williams sang it antiphonally with the choir responding.
Antiphonal music isn’t a novelty in the Anglican world, but the style is. Rather than drawing from the English tradition, Williams turned to an African-American style. It had its roots in slavery and agricultural work; the rhythmic music helped to ease the hard tedium of working in the fields in the hot South. It appears in compositions such as Scott Joplin’s Treemonisha (which I highly recommend you see if you get the chance).

The “field hands” Williams had to work with were the youth of St. Paul’s Episcopal Church in Burlingame, CA. Although the result is quite charming, I’m sure that Williams got a good laugh at the business of having a largely white, middle class choir singing in a style which had been (and probably still was at the time) sung by poor black people picking cotton.
And, of course, the Nicene Creed sung included the “filoque” clause, which has created such a headache these days in the Anglican-Episcopal world.
It’s been a long time since this was recorded, but some more contemporary observations are in order.
The first is a question: how many of these fine Episcopal youth “stayed on the plantation” after the convulsions of the 1960’s and 1970’s turned into the church’s first major shedding of membership?
The second is that, during the second shedding of membership, the orthodox African provinces came and helped give cover to the “Anglican Revolt”. The Africans also found out that some of the “field hands” they took on weren’t as amenable to oversight as expected, which only shows that some people are better at dishing it out than taking it.
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Rowan Williams' Dismissial of Western Christians' Persecution is Premature
Lord Williams said religious believers should be wary of complaining about their treatment in the Western world, with those claiming they are “persecuted” making him “very uneasy”.
He added the level of “not being taken very seriously” or “being made fun of” in Britain and the United States is not comparable to the “murderous hostility” faced by others in different parts of the world.
Williams, like many on both sides of the debate, is evidently working under the assumption that things will stay the way they are in the West about human rights. That’s simply not a given:
- The whole state of human rights in the West is undergoing profound changes that few understand, although the recent revelations about the NSA (and its counterparts in the UK are busy, too) should put everyone on notice about this. The centralisation of wealth and the fear of terror have eroded rights in ways that many simply choose to ignore, but that doesn’t mean the problem isn’t real.
- Real Christianity is something that those in the upper reaches have never had much use for, and could more easily ignore if it weren’t for those pesky things called elections. Thinking about the upper reaches, same have generally had two policies on the subject: they either manage the religion (and the Church of England is the management par excellence, which explains a lot of what the Anglican Communion has been about) or end it, as the third century Roman Empire tried to do.
- The ability of the modern state and its pliant media to use social pressure to bully people should never be underestimated. I noticed that Sojo thinks Williams is right; they should objectively consider the experience of their own Jim Wallis with the LGBT community, the current vanguard of our elites.
When pushed, Williams himself will admit that the current government isn’t helping matters:
“Their fears may be exaggerated because few in the UK are actually persecuted, but the Prime Minister has done more than any other recent political leader to feed these anxieties,” he said…
He added “many Christians” doubted the sincerity of Mr Cameron’s pledge to support their rights, with a recent poll showing two-thirds believed they are now part of a “persecuted minority”
Well they should doubt Cameron’s sincerity, or that of his counterparts on this side of the Atlantic. For someone not given to bold statement, Lord Williams should think twice before criticising those who are more prescient than he.
