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The Catholic Church and the Dung Beetles
One of my Twitter followers referred me to this series of posts (Part I, Part II and Part III, and now he’s added a piece about the Trads) by one Larry Chapp, one time seminarian and academic. (He uses the dung beetle analogy in the first post.) A thorough response would be as long as his original series. (I’ve addressed the issue of the Trads elsewhere.) The podcast video brought out many points that were hard to find in the long narrative, but it too takes a while to digest.
I’ve spent a lot of time on Roman Catholicism on this site, for two reasons, The first is that its place in Christianity is important whether you think that place is deserved or not. The second is that my years as a Roman Catholic were the central drama in my walk with God on this earth; here is where it all was transformed.
Chapp’s opening narrative about the bishops brings back to mind something that happened to me while an undergraduate at Texas A&M. After my second year, I left dorm life behind for good and moved into a trailer with a friend of mine from “Newman/Answer” circles. Early on we got into a discussion about the Church and its leadership. Growing up Episcopalian acclimated me to less than stellar clergy leadership. But he would have none of it, and basically forced me to read this from Ezekiel:
Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock. The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them. And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered. My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them. Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD; As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock; Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD; Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them. (Ezekiel 34:2-10 KJV)
That was in 1975.
Chapp clears up a major reason for this problem: the episcopal appointments under Paul VI left a lot to be desired of. Those appointments, and the whole leftward drift of the American church after Vatican II, left the church vulnerable to sub-Christian influences, a situation that I’ve discussed elsewhere.
My friend’s and my subsequent course as Roman Catholics was an exercise in navigating this swamp while at the same time maintaining a high level of Christian life that we knew God expected of us. In the short run it wasn’t a problem, but after we left College Station things got interesting–too interesting.
We tried very hard to stay in the Church, I think he more than me. But it wasn’t easy. In his case he ended up in a Catholic Charismatic covenant community, one ultimately split by a Marian devotion controversy. He even married a Roman Catholic in a Catholic ceremony (the last time I was a lector.) But in the end he gave up and left.
Neither my first parish nor my years at A&M really prepared me for the miserable state of American Catholic parish life. I tried and rejected the covenant community. I moved to Tennessee and got involved in a Catholic Charismatic prayer group, which also split over the Marian devotion issue. The church didn’t like Charismatics and ultimately wore down the group, not only for doctrinal issues but because it wasn’t really respectable in this community, and the Catholic Church around here craved respectability. So I ended up leaving as well. That wasn’t my original plan–and it wasn’t my friend’s either–but I really feel that the Church didn’t leave us with much choice, its ostensible representations notwithstanding.
The fact that we were both involved in the Charismatic Renewal was part of the problem. With the accession of Pope John Paul II in 1978 a house cleaning was initiated. Unfortunately that included much of the Charismatic Renewal, which was ecumenical in nature. Covenant prayer groups and communities ended up either getting offers they couldn’t refuse, going “underground” or going away. (I still am not sure how the People of Praise managed to dodge the bullet, but they did.)
This illustrates something else that Chapp brings up: the tone deafness of the current Occupant of the See of St. Peter about the needs of the American church. To some extent all of the Occupants have this problem. I’m sure that the ecumenical, free-form Charismatics here got under John Paul II’s skin (I have reason to believe they did in Poland, too.) But during the Anglican Revolt days of the late 1990’s and 2000’s, the Charismatics furnished some of the heft the “reasserters” needed in that effort (although the Reformed and Anglo-Catholic types are loathe to admit it.) Their Catholic counterparts would have been very helpful in the current struggle.
But now we are back to the future: the American Catholic church, with the help of the Vatican, is drifting back into a classic “go along to get along” stance with our culture. As Chapp notes, they don’t really believe much of what they supposedly teach. And that’s a sad commentary. But there’s more to it than that.
Chapp brings up something that you don’t hear much about: ultramontanism. Ever since the Restoration in France, the Church has been an ultramontane institution, i.e., one governed by the fiat of Rome. In one sense that should improve the accountability of the lower ranks, but their lack of accountability to their flocks (a ditching of a hallmark of Vatican II) only makes them “little Caesars” in their parishes and (especially) dioceses, with cover from above. They can build their own empires and cushion their own positions with impunity, if they can survive storms such as the molestation scandals.
Sooner or later, however, the leadership of the Church will experience this prophetic passage of Bossuet, given about a century before the French Revolution:
Let us listen to our law in the person of Jesus Christ, as long as we are priests of the Lord. If it was said to Levi, on account of his sacred ministry: You are my holy man, to whom I have given perfection and doctrine; and for that, he must say to his father and to his mother: I do not know you; and to his brethren: I do not know who you are, and he has no children but those of God. If it is thus, I say, about the law of Levi and the Mosaic priesthood, how pure, how detached from flesh and blood must be the Christian priesthood, with Jesus Christ as author and Melchizedek as model? No, we must know of no other task, no other function, nor have any other interest than that of God, teaching his law and his judgments, and continually offering him perfumes to appease him. If we keep this law of our holy ministry, one would not see the invasion of the rights and authority of the priesthood, which are those of Jesus Christ. God would become our avenger, and the prayer of Moses would have its effect: Lord, help your ministers, uphold their strength, protect the work of their hands; hit the fleeing backs of their enemies, and those who hate them may never rise again. But because, more carnal than the children of the age, we only think of making ourselves fat, of living at our ease, of making successors for ourselves, of establishing a name and a house, then everyone sets upon us, and the honor of the priesthood is trampled underfoot. (Elevations on the Mysteries, XIII, 6)
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I’m Featured in the New Humanist About Working in Heaven
It’s the topic that never seems to go away (sorry!) My first post on this topic was in 2012, but just a few weeks ago I wrote this in response–and amplification–to an article which featured my first post in, of all places, MEL Magazine (a secular publication for men.)
Now Ralph Jones has written a piece for the New Humanist which once again examines this question. And once again my pieces and also an email interview we did are featured.
There are two questions which bother me about this whole issue, at least the way I’ve been involved with it.
The first is this: why are secular publications seemingly more interested in this topic than Christians are? I think the answer is that churches and ministers, thinking that people are more interested in the immediate benefits of following Jesus Christ in this life than the reward on the other side, have emphasised the former at the expense of the latter. The interest in this topic by secular publications such as these challenge this assumption.
This isn’t the first time that a topic of interest has had secular people call out those who profess and call themselves Christians; it happened in 2007-8 when Brendan O’Neill called out Rowan Williams on environmentalism, which I documented in my piece Messing in Our Own Box.
The second is this: am I the only Christian to actively oppose the idea of working in heaven? Or are there other closeted saints who read the Scriptures the same way that I do who are afraid to voice their opinion? That, by definition, is a form of cancel culture.
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Things Going Your Way? A Holy Week Reflection
Many of you know that I used to work for the Church of God Department of Lay Ministries. One of my colleagues, who did most of the graphic design work, was a good friend in addition to being a coworker. Sometimes he’d greet me with the phrase, “Things going your way?”
It’s an easy way to say “how are you” because you just assume that, if things are going your way, they’re good. But the more I think about it the more I realise that there’s something missing here. The assumption that, if things are going your way they’re going the way they should, needs some review. I was raised in an environment where I was told that it really didn’t matter whether things went your way or not; you just dealt with what was thrown at you. Finding out that much of the world doesn’t see it that way–especially Christians–has been a life long struggle.
No where is this more evident than full gospel Christianity, with prosperity teaching following. The idea is very current that, if you’re in God’s will, things will be going your way. If they’re not, something is wrong with you. Many people who experience adversity decide that it isn’t them, and that’s the unrolling theodicy disaster we’re seeing now. The practical application of this is that people–Christians and others–are conditioned to go to pieces when things don’t go their way. We’ve seen this play out in the past year with the COVID pandemic, but it antedates that. This kind of attitude makes life in the U.S. very difficult to endure.
Such an attitude is profoundly unBiblical, and the whole story of the Passion and what follows shows this. From Palm Sunday things go downhill for Our Lord. First Judas sneaks off, first to make the deal with the Jewish leadership and then to make good on that deal. The other disciples are erratic at best; they can’t stay awake when Our Lord needs them the most and bail on him when the going gets tough. He endures gruesome torture and ultimately death by crucifixion, taunted by things like this: “He saved others, but he cannot save himself! He is the ‘King of Israel’! Let him come down from the cross now, and we will believe in him. He has trusted in God; if God wants him, let him deliver him now; for he said ‘I am God’s Son.’” (Matthew 27:42-43 TCNT)
But then things change: he rises from the dead, turns disciples into apostles by commissioning them to take the good news to the world, ascends into heaven, and sends the Holy Spirit to start the church. (The church, sadly, has tried to do the job without the Paraclete, and has the results to show it.)
The lesson of this is simple: just because things aren’t going your way just now doesn’t mean that they aren’t going God’s way. Our first objective in our walk with God is to follow him, not to expect him to follow us. When we do that we can find the happiness he has for us, both here and on the other side.
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Casting the Seven Mountains Into the Sea
David French’s piece on the “Seven Mountain Movement” is in intriguing look into something that I’ve heard discussed over the years but never really spelled out. He describes the basics of the movement as follows:
In its distilled essence, the Seven Mountain concept describes seven key cultural/religious institutions that should be influenced and transformed by Christian believers to create “Godly change” in America. The key to transforming the nation rests with reaching the family, the church, education, media, arts, the economy, and the government with the truth of the Gospel.
Although stuff like this has induced panic into the left over the years, even with Trump the left has overestimated the ability of those who espouse this movement to make it a reality. Looked at from a purely objective standpoint, the whole Evangelical movement to “take America back for God” has floundered along for too long, having its biggest triumph too late in the game for the results to stick.
French himself put his finger on the core problem, but I don’t think he realises its import:
Astute readers will by now have noticed two things…Second, you’ll note how much it emphasizes the importance of placing people in positions of power and control.
The left understands completely the importance of power and control, and has from the start. They’ve played the long game to get where they’re at, even though many, in typically American fashion, have been impatient about results and frequently have overplayed their hand because of their impatience. The left’s biggest problem is that, as I noted at the end of my novel, they don’t have a strong leader to really get their agenda over the top, contenting themselves with collectivistic gumming of their opponents.
Evangelicals have up until now lived in a country where you didn’t have to have power to have a good life. The legal and political system allowed people to live well without having to have some kind of “inside deal” to get along. They didn’t understand, unlike the left, that you have to “play for keeps” to really get where you want to go, and the game is not won by winning elections or getting many people on your side, but the right people, in which case the other two come eventually.
That’s all changed, and now Evangelicals have woken up to the fact that their opponents have been engaged in asymmetric warfare with a superior strategy. So now they now try to target the right people, which is a game changer for Evangelicals, usually engaged in an eternal popularity contest. In the course of this they have set as their objective control of society, because the left has taught them that, to do what you want, you need to have power.
I honestly think that it’s too late in the game for Evangelicals to attempt this. I also think that Evangelicalism isn’t designed for societal domination in the way that, say, the Main Line churches were. The latter, descendants for the most part of Old World (and some New World) state churches, lived in a world where the church and state set the agenda (subject to disputes as to what that agenda was) and everyone went along with it. The Main Line churches dominated the scene in this country, not now the state church but comfortable with bringing people to cultural Christianity. With the decline of Main Line churches, Evangelicals have tried to fill the void. But Evangelical churches are, by definition, about a decision. To be a truly national/societal church isn’t about decisions; it’s about setting the pace in a society. Those who don’t like the pace they’ve set either must revolt (with the consequences of failure) or leave.
At this point, instead of playing around with “influencer” games, Evangelicals have only two choices.
The first is what I call the “Jehu Option,” i.e. a revolt until their opponents are gone. Some would like to think that the riot at the Capitol 6 January 2021 was the beginning of such an option, but given the desultory way the rioters assaulted vs. the inadequate response of the Capitol Police, we’re a long way from that happening. In any case I doubt Evangelicals (or any other dissidents) could pull it together to make it happen. I’ve always felt that the fall of the Republic will come from outside taking advantage of internal weakness and division; the idea that we can replicate the American Revolution against ourselves is a non-starter.
The second is to recognise that we have lost control of the levers of secular power and plan accordingly. In reality Evangelicals have not had their hands anywhere near these levers since at least World War I. The events of the Trump era were an aberration; Evangelicals were forced to go along with someone who was very different from their idea of a good, respectable human being. The fact that some tried to apply adoration to their icon only shows that it’s easier to try to get away from the apostolic churches than it is to actually do it.
I don’t think that the New Testament supports the “Jehu Option” in any form (the Old Testament wasn’t really happy about the outcome of that bloodbath either.) Getting Evangelicals past their defective concept of the relationship of the Old and New Testament–which makes options like that and the American Revolution morally plausible–isn’t going to be an easy task. Getting American Evangelicals past their a)conflation of their faith in God with their love of country and b)their idea that Evangelical Christianity is the “way up” isn’t going to be easy either, although the latter should be obvious in a country where there isn’t much of a way up for most of the population.
What Evangelicals need to do is to is to quit trying to scale/conquer the seven mountains and try to move one:
And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. (Mark 11:22-23 KJV)
To which the great Bossuet commented as follows:
Behold the wonder of wonders: man clothed in the omnipotence of God.
Go, said the Saviour, heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, case out devils: freely have you received, freely give. (Matthew 10:8) Who ever gave such a command?
And he sent them to preach the Kingdom of God, and to heal the sick. (Luke 9:2) Who ever sent his ministers with such commands? Go, He said, into this house and heal those whom you will find there. All were filled with wonder at such commands. And yet, he proceeded even further: All that you ask in my name, you shall receive. (John 14:14) You will be able to do all that I am able to do. You will do all of the greatest things that you have seen me do, and you will do even greater things. In fact, if one was cured on touching the edge of the robe of Jesus Christ while He was wearing it, weren’t even greater miracles being performed by St. Paul, when there were even brought from his body, to the sick, handkerchiefs and aprons, and the diseases departed from them? (Acts 19:12) And not only the linens which had touched the apostles had that power, but their very shadow: when Peter came, his shadow at the least, might overshadow any of them, and they might be delivered from their infirmities. (Acts 5:15)
Here, therefore, is the greatest miracle of Jesus Christ. Not only is He all-powerful, but here He renders man all-powerful and, if possible, more powerful than He Himself is, performing constantly greater miracles, and all through faith and through prayer: and all things whatsoever you shall ask in prayer, believing, you shall receive. (Matthew 21:22) Faith, therefore, and prayer are all-powerful, and they clothe man with the omnipotence of God. If you can believe, said the Saviour, all is possible to him who believes. (Mark 9:22)
The performance of miracles, therefore, is not the difficulty. Rather, the difficulty is to believe. If you can believe. This is the miracle of miracles; to believe absolutely and without hesitation. I believe, Lord, help my unbelief (Mark 9:23), said the man to whom Jesus said: If you can believe.
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Work in Heaven? Rubbish!
I got this shout-out from MEL Magazine’s Miles Klee about my 2012 piece on working in heaven:
I was thankful to turn up one guy, Don C. Warrington, who, though a practicing Christian and once employed by the Church of God, wasn’t having this bull****. “The Scriptures are not very detailed on what our life with God on the other side will be like,” he argued in a 2012 blog post. “They speak of rewards, crowns, ruling and the like, but none of this suggests work. The whole idea of ruling is that someone else gets to do the work while you take the credit.” Moreover, he asserts, we won’t have to develop the infrastructure of heaven when we arrive: “Jesus promised that he would go and prepare the place.”
As I did then, I think the whole concept of working in heaven is profoundly unBiblical. I laid out the case in that post and won’t go through it again. What I want to concentrate on here is how this kind of belief got into Evangelical Christianity in this country. Klee leads off with FBC Dallas’ Robert Jeffress pronouncement on the subject, but as he shows this kind of thinking has been embedded amongst our ministers for a long time. (My original post nine years ago was in response to some pulpit pronouncements.)
I think this is a classic example of Evangelicals “engaging the culture” which ends up becoming “following the culture.” Traditionally (in the South at least) Evangelical Christianity has always had an escapist streak in it, as anyone who’s experienced a “heaven song” medley will attest. Americans, however, have a bad habit of defining themselves and their worth by what they do for a living, be that independent business or working for someone else. Churches have not only picked up and tried to Biblicise that, they’re also playing to a bad dynamic amongst our ministers which makes the congregation essentially employees of the pastor, there to fulfil the pastor’s vision for the church. This last point is weird considering that the money flow in a church is opposite to that of a workplace.
I think my own pushback to all of this, in addition to reading comprehension of the Bible, is assisted by my own status as a combination of old money snobbery and Scots-Irish laziness, the former of which is virtually unknown in Evangelical circles. To begin with, I think it’s bad that Americans invest so much of their concept of self worth in their work. It’s bad from a career standpoint, as I point out in Advice to Graduates: The Two Promises I Made to Myself, and it’s also bad from a workplace operation standpoint. In many workplaces everyone is trying harder to show that they’re up to their inflated publicity rather than doing the task that is in front of them. Changing that would not only make our workplaces more productive; it would get rid of many of the gender bias issues that we seem to obsess so much about.
It’s also shocking that Christians invest so much of their self-concept in their work and that their ministers aid and abet this mistake. Isn’t our first identity in Christ? How can we oppose the critical race theory jockeys and still look to somewhere else other than our creator for our identity and worth? I discuss this on a elevated social plane in my piece A State of Being.
That being said, I am one of these people who believe that we should come to work and do our best, and apply our mind to effectively do the task that is in front of us, up to and including challenging the concept of “we’ve always done it this way.” But when it’s time to “lay our burdens down,” it’s time, and heaven ultimately is that time. Klee laments that one Evangelical says that there will be no orgasms in heaven. The Evangelical is right, but what we will experience in the presence of God will be far more intense and sustained than any orgasm we experience here.
At that point, the work will cease and the celebration will begin and never end. Don’t miss it.
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ACNA: About That Celibacy Thing…
Edgar Noble’s piece Yes to Gay Identity, No to Gay Sex? The Concept Shaking the Foundations of the ACNA is a thought-provoking piece on a subject that, to be honest, I didn’t think would come up this quickly in the ACNA’s life. As I noted in the last post, we have TEC, why do people feel compelled to bring this into the ACNA? I’ll come back to that later.
I look at this as a “meaning of life issue.” What is life all about? What is our real purpose and goal? What are we trying to accomplish along the way? I grew up in a world–upper class and progressive at that–which put forth the idea that life was all about getting laid, high or drunk (in that order,) and that there is something basically wrong with people who didn’t subscribe to that. That’s really the core of the conflict between the “arbiters of taste” in our society and Christians who uphold the traditional sexual ethic.
If you look at the culture wars the last fifty years or so, that’s pretty much the essence of the matter. But it predates that: the ancient world was filled with fertility deities and all of the “wide open” practices that went with that. Christianity (and before that Judaism) came and and opposed that, and the pagan world has hated us for it ever since. The issue at its crudest is simple: is our God the creator of the universe, or does this deity reside between our legs?
Under these circumstances, the whole concept of celibacy is a form of secular blasphemy. If life is defined by our sexual activity, then how is it possible for us to abstain and be human? Part of the core of Christian belief and practice is that all of us have to practice celibacy at some point in our lives. The fact that such periods exist for anyone is deeply offensive to those who make sexual activity the centre of their existence.
The whole course of the current LGBT movement needs to be seen in that context. We have a group of people who are defined by their sexual activity, whose identity is bound up in that activity. How is it possible for people to be celibate and yet claim this identity? That’s a question the ACNA needs to find an answer for and not get lost in the post-modern mushiness that surrounds most of our cultural debates.
Noble mentions that people have been conditioned to view their sexual orientation as immutable. That’s being challenged by the “T” part of LGBT, that not only should our lives be determined by our sexual activity, but that domination extends up to and including changing the tools out. It’s a conflict that has led to the “TERF wars” of which J.K. Rowling is the most famous general.
And now we should consider a question we started with: why fight this battle in the ACNA and not simply move to TEC, which has embraced the LGBT community for many years. One thing the left in this country is obsessed with is existing institutions. They seldom think of starting their own; they work hard to take over ones that are already there. Evidently the ACNA, in spite of its relative youth, is an “existing institution” of sufficient prestige to warrant such demands from the left. Personally I think that the ACNA, like TEC, is a victim of its own privileged demographics. Largely white and well off, it’s a natural target for movements like this.
That being what it may, the ACNA was born in the defence of basic Christian doctrine and life. It either needs to stand for it or fold and admit that all of the money, pain and litigation were simply a waste of time. American Christianity has for too long been a popularity contest. Real Christianity has never been popular, and that simple fact needs to be understood completely.








