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Watching the Clouds Go By on Mars
Most photos we get from planetary/lunar landers are aimed downward, but this one is a time-lapsed one looking upward, showing the ice clouds in the north polar region of Mars.From the Phoenix lander, courtesy of this site.
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More on Commitment and Homosexuality
The comments to my last post on this subject have been interesting.
Let me start with Margaret:
I also am puzzled by this insistence that “committed” equally “right”.
Ahab and Jezebel were “committed” but it was never “right” for a Jewish king to marry outside the faith. Similarly Samson and Delilah were “committed” at least at the beginning — but it was never right. There are a string of “committed” relationships that are deemed “wrong”.
Of course in the New Testament we have Jesus saying that people will leave their fathers, mothers, wives and children for the faith. (eg Luke 18:29) So much for marital commitment being absolutely essential for Christians. And then of course we have the example of Pauls teaching about leaving partners who will not accept the christian spouse’s conversion …
So exactly how has commitment got the allure that it has ended up with? an allure that has even sucked in a theologian of the stature of the Archbishop of Canterbury.
I’m glad that Margaret gave some examples of how non-homosexual relationships can de-legitimise themselves for a wide variety of reasons.
And then Dr. Deborah Pitt (whose back and forth with the Archbishop of Canterbury started all of this) weighs in again:
I’ve enjoyed the dialogue and agree with the comments re ‘committed’.
If I may, I’ll quote from my letter to AbC:
I am not saying that the quality of devotion (in homosexual relationships) cannot be as high, perhaps it can for all I know. But that does not make the relationship intrinsically right. There are many adulterous heterosexual unions that are marked by great qualities of devotion, commitment etc. That does not make them right, though. There is honour among thieves. That does not make robbery all right. Certainly not for the victims. As for ‘absolute covenanted faithfulness’ as a criterion for the rightness of a relationship, well, the Mafia operates by a similar code. (I am not likening homosexuals to the Mafia, just that the criterion is not an absolute good.) The attainment of such an ideal is less likely with homosexual relationships, which are remarkable for their promiscuity, for some reason. Neither will the strong tendency to promiscuity be helped by friendly legislation for homosexual marriage or acceptability by the public. (Nothing, by the way, prohibits a homosexual couple from drawing up their own legal contract if they want to )
I have two comments to this:
- I was amused at her invocation of the “Mafia” relative to homosexuals. Sad to say, in the political realm, the analogy is all too real. Any group of people who use intimidation, bullying, and the threat of silencing and incarcerating their opponents through the use of hate crimes and anti-discrimination legislation the way they do certainly deserves a gang type of analogy. They have poisoned any hope of meaningful dialogue, even where matters of public policy aren’t involved (i.e., the church.) And that doesn’t consider their MO in the Anglican/Episcopal world…
- Her comment of “Nothing, by the way, prohibits a homosexual couple from drawing up their own legal contract if they want to” is absolutely correct. As I noted a long time ago, LGBT activists had a choice regarding their course of action regarding legal equality for their relationships; the one they chose speaks volumes of their idea. And, I might add, Christians’ response on this speaks volumes for our idea too…
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When Ministers are Asked to Underperform
Recently I was talking with some Episcopalian friends of mine about the rather vacuous, primer-like articles that their bishop (Diocese of East Tennessee’s Charles von Rosenberg) had written (and had been spread around the Anglican world by Kendall Harmon) in anticipation of and in the wake of the Lambeth 2008 conference.
Needless to say, they were not pleased that the uninspiring reality of their bishop’s musings had been spread abroad by the Canon Theologian of South Carolina.
But then they came up with this: a friend of their son’s had started as a deacon at another parish. His instructions were to “underperform” so as to make the laity do more of the work.
Working in a church as I do, I know there are underperforming ministers out there. But to make that a minister’s mission is a new one on me. I’m all for the laity doing the work, but everyone in the church needs to do their best. If a minister needs to underperform to help the laity, maybe the laity needs to take on the work on a regular time basis and invest the church’s income in something else than more staff…
Leave it to the Episcopal Church to break new ground in this way…
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Reply to Jonathan Martin on Pentecost and Catholic Theology
I noted here that Jonathan Martin has written a paper entitled, “Spirit, Apocalypse and Ethics: Reading Catholic Moral Theology as a Pentecostal” in The Journal of Pentecostal Theology. (The abstract is here.)
First: congratulations are in order. It’s great to be a published author. It’s not always easy either, because everyone else wants “a piece of the action.” Moreover you’re always afraid that some of the “renown scholars” in your field will find fault in what you’ve written. I know I was very nervous when presenting my first published paper (my second one is here.) But they went fine.
I’ve been surprised at the interest amongst Pentecostals in things Catholic. This was especially true in the number of ministers who expressed interest in sacramental theology in this MissionalCOG post. (Are you guys working on a Eucharistic Congress?) Sacramental theology, and considering anything to be a sacrament, has been a bête noire amongst Evangelicals for a long time.
I spent a lot of time studying Catholic theology and history during my years as a Roman Catholic and afterwards. For a long time I have felt it necessary to de-emphasise that part of my life, but perhaps the Lord has kept me around for a time like this when Pentecostals are wrestling with issues that they haven’t been up to now. There are good reasons to incorporate Catholic theology and thought into our discussions; let me share two.
The first is the following, which I said earlier:
I’ve just about come to the conclusion that the phrase “Protestant theology” is an oxymoron. Protestants don’t have theology; they have doctrine. They teach it, they make it a litmus test for acceptance and, if they’re really on their game, they live it. But the word “theology” implies that one has to think out the “why”–the mechanics, to use an engineering term–behind something, and Protestants in general and Evangelicals in particular seem to be afraid of that. Too many people have the idea that such a quest will end up with an unBiblical result. That’s why I say that Roman Catholic theology, for all of its problems (the biggest of which is the institution of the Roman Catholic Church itself,) is the premier intellectual tradition in Christianity.
The second is that many Evangelicals equate “Protestant” with “Reformed.” That’s deadly for Pentecost. Reformed theology turns a dynamic walk with Christ into a static legal fiction. Catholic theology has always posited that a right relationship with God includes the indwelling of Christ in the believer. (That’s expressed musically here.) Since Pentecosals experience the baptism (immersion) in the Holy Spirit, it’s a natural fit.
That leads me to consider modern Pentecost’s Wesleyan roots. Wesley was an Anglican, and Anglicanism, although it adopted the Augustinian language and concepts of the Reformation, was “Catholic” enough to never go with a purely Calvinistic view of perseverance. I describe the importance of that here:
Reformed theology made inheriting eternal life a simple matter: you had faith in God (an act which God caused,) your name was written in the Lamb’s Book of Life, and that was it. There was no need for penance or the church, but there was no need for spiritual growth or having to do anything, good, bad or indifferent. The logical end to this is a butt-sitting religion where people can pompously proclaim they’re going to heaven without any further action on their part. Mercifully many members of Reformed churches have not “connected the dots” in this way, and they are a blessing to themselves, the people around them and to God himself.
But, when things get across the Channel, there’s Article XVI. The whole idea that people can fall way (“backslide,” to use the traditional terminology) implies movement. If people can move back in their relationship with God, they can move forward. This turns the Christian life from a static to a dynamic business. It puts movement into one’s relationship with God. It also puts movement into one’s life to serve God and to do the work that he left us here to do. The “fuel” behind this, from Jewel to Wesley, is sanctification, personal holiness that enables the believer to “… lay aside everything that hinders us, and the sin that clings about us, and run with patient endurance the race that lies before us…” (Hebrews 12:1b) Sanctification as the work of the Holy Spirit means that God interacts in a positive with us after we are reborn in him.
And this leads us to the baptism in the Holy Spirit. It is more than a tradition; it is rooted in the early church from the day it started. But, as explained in LifeBuilders Essentials, it is not a principally emotional experience either. It is the “fuel” to empower the believer to share one’s faith with others in whatever way that God has directed an individual to do so. Once again the idea is the same: progress for the individual in one’s walk with God, and progress for the church as it seeks to fulfil it’s God-given mission. This is why, after barely a century on the earth, so many Christians consider themselves to be Pentecostal or Charismatic, and show the gifts and manifestations that go with that. But in the process many were saved through the exercise of the same power, so the movement that is seen to be demonstrative is also evangelistic.
The one thing we must avoid in all of this–and I cannot overemphsise the point–is institutionalism. If we are the people of the Spirit we claim to be, we must move in that way.
I’m excited about the possibilities, and hopefully can be constructive in my contribution.
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Unlike us, when God speaks, He has something to say
This pithy observation from Forward Leadership:
Unlike us, when God speaks, He has something to say. My Pastor spoke last Christmas about the 400 years of silence “between” the Old and New Testament. When He finally spoke…WOW!
I don’t offer this post as if I always hear God’s voice, never get discouraged, or that you aren’t human if you are experiencing these things. I offer them as encouragement.
I pray that you have an incredible conversation with God today.
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Brian McLaren Trashes the Concepts of Hell, the Atonement and Divine Justice
The day after I posted Brian McLaren’s Learning How to Love, now this:
Hat tip to Stand Firm in Faith for this.
